By adamg on Mon., 1/18/2016 - 6:06 pm
State Police report protesters demanding a $15 minimum wage at Logan Airport were allowed to protest and listen to a few speeches, then, when told to disperse, six refused and were arrested.
Those arrested on a trespassing charge: Michael G. Gallagher, 67, of Boston, Marvin A. Martin, 61, of Dorchester, Mary D. Lombos, 41, of Roxbury, Jacqueline Wesley, 51, of Roxbury, Yusuf Farah, 57, of Cambridge and Roxana L. Rivera, 46, of Warwick, RI.
Innocent, etc.
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Here's a lesson about sourcing
By Roman
Wed, 01/20/2016 - 12:58am
Name-calling principles and ideologies as "tired" "overused" and "useless" just because you disagree with them may work on two-year-olds and True Believers, but it really doesn't work on anyone with more than half a brain.
American exceptionalism is false? Prove it. Point by point. Pretend you're in geometry class. Can't do it? Then you've got nothing. Move on.
The free market doesn't work? Prove it, and more importantly, explain away all the obvious cases where it does work, like the fact that the supermarkets are full of food, the best buy is full of kitchen appliances, and the home depot has tomato plants on sale every june. And I do mean all of them.
Also, don't confuse me with The Donald. I know it's hard, but even chimps and two-year-old humans have the ability to distinguish between the mental states and identities of distinct people. Embrace your inner human (or chimp, if that's your thing), I know you can do it!
And now some more serious lessons:
You don't need to source 1+1=2. Because it, and everything that derives from it is true by virtue of itself.
You shouldn't cite "studies" about hot-button political issues produced or paid for by groups with an overt political agenda and call it objective.
You shouldn't cite studies whose broad strokes come down to "let me and my friends decide for you because I said so". I believe there's also a lesson about the shell games by the bus station that's related to that one.
The two things I learned from all my apparently deficient education in formal and applied mathematics is that statistics can and will be abused to show anything and confirmation bias is everywhere.
Well then
By Kaz
Wed, 01/20/2016 - 2:42pm
Let's just trust you to have no confirmation bias and not need any sources or statistics because they're all bunk anyways.
Whew, go on then prophet of truth, America, and free markets. Please tell us more from your pure position unassailable by anyone else's data, evidence, or thoughts to the contrary.
Cute
By Roman
Wed, 01/20/2016 - 11:11pm
except that my argument is that no small group of people should be empowered to make decisions for the rest of the free citizenry.
Precisely because they can't have all the information they need to please all the people all the time, assuming they're not in somebody's pocket, which historically is a very charitable assumption to make.
Like I said, someone needs America lessons, and reading comprehension lessons.
So, for you...
By Michael Kerpan
Wed, 01/20/2016 - 11:43pm
... no child labor laws, no minimum wage laws, no regulation of breaks (or other working conditions). Just one big, libertarian paradise -- in which each individual worker pits his strength mano-a-mano against global, trillion-dollar corporations.
Interesting that you think that THIS is what America is (or should be) all about.
Kids these days just don't
By Rose
Mon, 01/18/2016 - 11:14pm
Kids these days just don't want to do any work! Always demanding more!
Oh wait, 41-67 year olds are getting arrested because they can't afford to live on these crap wages for hard jobs? Maybe we should listen and do something.
Free tickets
By Roman
Tue, 01/19/2016 - 1:13am
to North Dakota when the price of oil ticks up again?
Don't hold your breath
By lbb
Tue, 01/19/2016 - 8:59am
With diplomatic relations with Iran, there's less incentive than ever to pay high extraction costs. Too bad for those who thought they'd profit from the boom...
Notice all of them are 40
By anon
Tue, 01/19/2016 - 8:47am
Notice all of them are 40 plus years old...
Serious Question......
By Pete Nice
Tue, 01/19/2016 - 9:22am
Does raising the minimum wage to a certain extent ($20, $25, $50) have the same effect as just printing more money? Would printing more money and just giving it to minimum wages now have the same effect?
And........
At some point, those making $15 an hour will lose some sort of government subsidized assistance since they would no longer be below or at the poverty line? (Assuming at least some mim wage workers will be above this line after an increase)
Pete
By cybah
Tue, 01/19/2016 - 2:13pm
See my looong comment above. Yes they will no longer qualify.
thanks cybah
By Pete Nice
Wed, 01/20/2016 - 7:32am
I kind of skimmed through a lot of the above posts...
No
By Kaz
Tue, 01/19/2016 - 3:24pm
Raising the minimum wage requires the companies to stop turning to their payroll as a source of profit margin. They will have to innovate, see stock declines, or raise prices. Of course you've now potentiated a LOT more consumers by giving them a salary that allows them to spend (it's known that increases in salary for the poor all gets spent, so the money circulates). So, you have more consumers, more demand, prices can stay low due to volume of sales going up. Mandatory wage increases almost always come out of profitability which companies have been abusing to make their company owners more money in any way possible and less to do with innovation/improving the market.
None of this requires more money to be printed. These days "printing more money" just puts more money in investors hands to flip stock, etc. and never even finds its way to the lower classes. It's a great source of pumping up the economy but it does next to nothing to wages, pricing, etc.
I'm just curious
By Roman
Wed, 01/20/2016 - 1:02am
as to what it is that you do for a living that you can have such ...a special...understanding of how businesses are run.
I work in defense and my employer has exactly one client, so I'm not exactly Mr. Free Market over here, but even I know that you can't expect people to just take a hit on their profits when their costs go up, those costs will get passed on to everyone because...get this...[b]There's No Free Lunch[/b]
I think I get that Kaz....
By Pete Nice
Wed, 01/20/2016 - 7:35am
I guess I'm asking a hypothetical in terms of what if you raised it too much? Wouldn't that have a direct impact on prices and then on inflation?
Would it be better to just raise it 50 or 75 cents a year for 20 years guaranteed than just make it $15?
I do like the "innovative" concept, but I'm not sure that works as well with smaller businesses, which may simply have to rely on raising prices. But if Walmart said they would give their workers a 40% discount on goods instead of 20%, that might accomplish as much as raising their wages.
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