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Protesting to protect Mueller
By adamg on Thu, 11/08/2018 - 5:29pm
Brad Squirrels reports from the Common:
Pretty impressive turnout on the Common with just 24 hours notice.
Lily Goldman is at a protest in Gloucester:
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Pre-empting the usual trolls
Thank you to those who are able to be there and are protesting.
A chant n Boston
Someone post the link to Jeff
Someone post the link to Jeff Sessions' GoFundMe page.
You'd be surprised
At how beloved the distinguished gentleman from Alabama is in the Bay State. I'm sure he is heartened by this show of support. Stay strong, Jeff! We love you (now that Trump hates you.)
All he wanted was to do a racism
And somehow he did a treason, too!
I hear he's pretty depressed.
Maybe someday he'll get over that awful cheated feeling he gets from not being able to own people like his great granddaddy did!
Owning people...
You mean slaves, right? As in being a slave owner prior to 1865? And we're holding that against the guy now, so if we're going down that road....
Howsa about that Grant character? You remember Ulysses S. Grant, he kinda whooped the Jeffster's slave owning ancestors. After, of course, owning a slave himself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_wh...
Careful of that brush, it doesn't care where it throws the tar.
General US Grant v. General Jeff Beauregard Sessions
Yes, but Grant learned through hard experience and rivers of blood to see things differently. He saved the Union, was the first general to support arming ex-slaves, and did his best to save reconstruction from the murderous confederate terrorists looking to disenfranchise ex-slaves after the war. He was a hero to African-Americans. But don't take my word for it, listen to Frederick Douglass: "he proved himself to be not only a wise general, but a great man, one who could adjust himself to new conditions, and adopt the lessons taught by the events of the hour"
Sessions praises the confederate flag as a symbol of the "the fabulous history" it represents, sought to disenfranchise black voters in Alabama through legal intimidation and lied about his relationship with a hostile foreign power in his confirmation hearing. Coretta Scott King went on record testifying against his nomination for a federal judgeship: "Mr. Sessions has used the awesome powers of his office in a shabby attempt to intimidate and frighten elderly black voters."
So, that brush? No.
It's not a rally in support of Sessions
It's a rally against appointing a new AG who's said he's against the ongoing investigation of Trump and who might not have constitutional authority to be appointed without congressional approval.
Let me put it this way
The rally was in reaction to the departure of Jeff Sessions, right? Using transitive properties, it was a rally in support of the Jeffster (which is what friends call him.)
Did you ever think you’d be mad that Sessions was gone? It’s kind of like how 16 years ago the left hated Ashcroft, only to find out he was actually defending the Constitution while in office.
Wrong
Don't use transitive properties. You could end up hurting yourself.
No I get it also
I get this also. Dire hard Democrat here.. but I also look at people as individuals too. Sessions is a hate monger, racists, asshole. I 100% get that and do not agree with many things he did. BUT.. he is a seasoned politician and knows the law. Sure he did some questionable things, but he knew to recluse himself right away. because at the end of the day Sessions cares some about our country.
And its more poignant in his (unsigned) resignation letter. He was honored to be picked, and to serve. And he wanted to uphold the constitution.
Again you don't have to agree with what he did, but the bottom line is.. he wanted to protect the constitution. I can't crap on the guy for that. Everything else, sure.
That's good
Liberals always seem to find it in their heart to say that a Republican cared about the future of our country...but only after that person is out of office. When Sessions was AG, just last week in fact, he was not only some guy you disagreed with, but he was practically ramming the spear into the body of Jesus, as the esteemed theologian from North Andover informed us. Now that hea out, he was upholding the Constitution.
McCain got a hero's funeral, but ten years ago he was the racist sexists pale Male and stale SOB who would single handedly take us all to Robert Bork's America.
Now the next step is acknowledgement that maybe Trump isn't all hate and nasty and might have some of his heart in the right place too.
I disagree
Sessions recused himself because he cared about his reputation, which is not quite the same thing.
Well put
You are a voice of reason.
It may or may not be wise,
It may or may not be wise, but this appointment appears to comply with the law:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/3345
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/3346
Fox News's Judge Napolitano doesn't think so
Protest
What exactly is the end game of this protest? Will it change anything?
Bullies get their strength
Bullies get their strength from the deafening silence
At the pleasure of the President.....
Doesn't anyone remember that Sessions served at the pleasure of the President, who can remove him for any reason...or no reason at all!
Thats how it works.
it's the "acting AG" part that may be illegal
Yes, the president can fire the attorney general, or any other member of the cabinet. That leaves the job vacant.
Replacements are new appointments, and require the consent of the senate. Not "I'm sending my buddy in, he starts immediately." The rules for putting in an "acting" AG, secretary of the interior, etc. depend on why the office was empty. Resigning (or dying in office) is different from being fired, and the "I am resigning at your request" wording of Sessions' letter may make it count as a firing for these purposes.
President Trump is the appointing authority, Sessions not good
President Trump is the appointing authority, Sessions not good. Glad to see him out. I believe Sessions is a good man and was a good US Senator but immediately recusing himself from the "Russia" fake investigation was terrible.
As for Mueller, he's almost becoming a comedy act. I only handled a few murders but you have Boston and State Police that handle them daily and can close the case in a few hours. 16 months for Mueller on a non-fatal case? Is he ok?
Thank God you are no longer a police officer
Jeff Sessions is not a good man. He is an evil overt racist that among other things tried to prosecute people for legally assisting African Americans to register to vote . His evil unlawful attempt in Alabama to jail people for exercising their constitutional rights was shut down by the courts . We can only assume your support of Sessions career before Trump is due to your appreciation of his racism.
You are smart enough to know that your allegation that the Mueller investigation is "fake" is a bold faced intentional lie. Even Trump knows it isn't fake. That's why he i has been panicking since the investigation began.
And your comparison of the Mueller investigation to murder cases solved "in hours" is BS. You know full well that many murder cases are never solved,and that the Mueller investigation is far more complex, involving international money laundering, treason, and the subversion of democracy.
If we assume your profile is correct, and you really are a retired police officer, it is a very good thing you no longer wear a uniform. One less racist extremist liar policing our streets is a good thing.
Mueller Makes Jokes?
Not sure what's so funny about indictments and criminal charges, but that's about all we get about from Mueller. The guy has impeccable Republican credentials so it's quite funny to hear you ragging on him.
I assume you were even more vehement in your protests of Kenneth Starr's Clinton investigation, which went on for FIVE YEARS. And sheer hilarity the whole time, right? And Starr sure nailed the Clintons, huh?
It's surprising to hear that some police prefer to "handle" murders rather than "solve" them. It sounds like speed is more valued than actually finding the guilty party and making sure the evidence is solid. Hoped they'd learned from their mistakes. Brings to mind a guy named Willie Bennett.
it's plain to see
that O'Fish and Romaine are STUPID BABIES. Stop Hiding. Once again, stop hiding. We see you. Meaningless and silly contributions having only to do with right/left identity. No willingness or ability to suspend judgment and look for the truth. And clearly, that compressed failed notion of truth IS what truth is like for them--can't envy that. I really hate sounding and feeling so hopeless, but fuck the data is in on the apologists. We know what you are. STOP HIDING. We see you.
As for the left, their primary failure is not endorsing an economy that will keep the masses of truthless pigs well-employed, covered by healthcare, and oblivious to voting. The left is NOT elitist enough, and they don't know how to really cover their ass. If they did, they would be working to pacify/ ensure employment for the masses of people who hate truth, can't love further out from their tribe than third cuz, and can't ABSTRACT; the latter being why their use of language is so fetid and malignant. The inherited hatred of order and meaning starts young.
Wheel barrow is to back pack as bucket is to:
a) grape
b) pencil
c) satchel
THEY WILL PICK GRAPE!!
Wow. Okay. Sure.
For the record, I was first my class in high school, had near perfect SATs, near perfect GPA in two bachelor's degrees in hard (as in mathematically-rigorous) subjects at a top ranked university, graduate degree in engineering from a top ranked university, scientific publications, six figure income, etc. Many, but not all of my friends, acquaintances, and colleagues with similar pedigrees aren't too far off from me in terms of politics, and polling from the last couple of elections shows that while that demographic skews Democrat, the number of Republicans and Trump supporters in that group is nowhere near zero.
But all that must be a self-serving lie because how could anyone who checks even half of those boxes not be a wishy-washy cumbaya open borders leftist? And how could anyone who thinks that people should obey the law and 22 million and counting illegal aliens flaunting the law is bad be anything other than a half-literate ignoramus?
Must be that I'm deliberately or unwillingly swallowing intellectual swill and calling it ambrosia because of a severe defect in my character. A little humility and introspection will lead you to ask whether that's true of yourself. Highly educated, erudite, right-thinking, the whole shebang. Is it possible that you're in your own bubble of solipsism? I mean it's possible for educated and otherwise intelligent people to fall into that trap. You're pretty much acknowledging that it is by accusing me of doing it. Look in the mirror.
No one is above the Law
People, including myself, protested the apparent degradation of the rule of law. No one is above the law in America including the president. The current President seems determined to obstruct justice through firing, dismissing, or forcing out scores of administration officials, and outright lying.
Mueller, and his OSC investigation have filed 191+ known indictments as of this writing including six guilty pleas from the President's National Security Adviser and the President' Campaign Chairman; charges include conspiracy to defraud the United States and conspiracy against the United States. In other words, people in the President's inner circle have admitted under oath that they were actively working in a hostile foreign country's interest against Americans'. So why appoint a person determined to end the investigation as Whittaker says he is? Surely an innocent President, working in America's best interests, would want the truth uncovered, at the very least to clear his own name? Does the President have reason to hinder the investigation?
Americans - regardless of party affiliation - rallied last night to support the Constitutional idea that no one is above the law.