Probably just as well the president is unlikely to visit Adams Park in Roslindale
At one end of Adams Park in Roslindale Square is a mournful memorial to local service members who died in battle in World War 1, the sort of men we learned today the president scorns as "losers" and "suckers", men he's not even sure fought on the right side in that war.
The park itself is named for Irving W. Adams, who lived at Edgemont and South Street, who attended the Longfellow School and who, at just 20, became the first Massachusetts soldier to die in World War I, at Raimbeaucourt, France. So that might further discomfort the president, even if it weren't raining and so potentially posing a threat to his hair.
The World War I memorial was eventually extended to the dead of the Korean and Vietnam wars, the latter of which the president evaded due to alleged bone spurs, although he did fight his own "personal Vietnam" in attempting to avoid contracting a sexually transmitted disease from the "potential landmines" that are vaginas.
At the other end of Adams Park is a memorial urn for the dead of World War II.
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Trump likes to brag he has the tough guys on his side. And
he certainly has the adoration of a certain kind of wannabe tough guy, the weekend warrior itching to wave his shiny dick-proxy in public to intimidate and maybe assault or kill someone with far less power and privilege.
It's a historic American ignominy that our President actively despises real heroes, the legion of young civilians who volunteered for or were pressed into service in defense of their country, who somehow stood up, answered the call of duty, and got maimed or killed by the hundreds of thousands to uphold democratic values.
CIC Bonespurs laughingly called being a rich fuckboy and avoiding STDs in the 70s his "personal Vietnam", and now ducks deceased-veteran homecoming services because one father of a dead serviceman dared to call him out. Also, shitting on unbelievably stalwart veterans like John McCain because they got captured. Jesus effing Christ. And denigrating Gold Star families. I'd say there can't be another way he could more basely desecrate the memory of honorably serving veterans, but Trump is Trump: there's always a new low to sink to.
I can only imagine with sorrow and grim humor what my uncle, who unhesitatingly answered the draft and as a fighter pilot got killed in combat -- an average Joe from a no-money family, a genuine tough guy -- would have said about this pampered, strutting, unspeakable coward. Pretty sure he would have cursed Trump with the vivid color and detail that actual soldiers reserve for half-men shirkers.
Whatever you say, JB, must be true, but...
...the only thing I find relevant and positive about this thread is the fact that an anti-faaa type hasn't vandalized the monument.
Yet.
Perhaps AG would be wise to not highlight it.
No idea what your point is, so I'll just ask: how
do you feel about Trump's ducking his military service for obviously bullshit reasons? (Alleged bone spurs -- so debilitating that Trump later couldn't remember which foot they were on -- didn't stop him from enjoying luxury skiing vacations and other sports shortly after he got his deferment.) What's your take on his shitting on McCain and Gold Star families? What's it like to support a Commander in Chief who thinks the service men and women under his aegis are losers and suckers? Inquiring minds want to know.
"wHaTEvEr U sAy, jB"
"But I find relevancy only in a hypothetical situation I cooked up in my head and have placed blame squarely at the feet of an amorphous group I've been taught to direct and focus my perperual aggreivement towards."
I noticed you couldn’t refute
I noticed you couldn’t refute anything said about Trumps hatred of the military so you deflected and brought up antifa for no reason instead.
There are claims...
...that the Atlantic article is utter and complete bullshit. Given the state of reliability of today's media, I'd call the article utter and complete bullshit.
JFK, Elvis and Marylin Monroe
There are claims all these folks are alive and well, albeit older. Given the state of humanity I would call these claims utter and complete silliness.
But if I read the National Enquire or Trump's friend who helmed the other crazy daisy tabloid these would be easily verified.
The state of today's media? For New York Times and The Atlantic excellent. Fox News - now that is where the bs is to be found.
Link to these claims please?
Who is making the claims?
There is corroboration...
...of the Atlantic article's charges.
I'm frankly surprised that you can even smell bullshit any more.
didn't you know
The Left called each of its news publications into a boardroom back in 2016 and decided they'd just fabricate 4 years (!) worth of absolutely ridiculous scandals in an effort to remove Trump from office, while making millions of dollars in clicks along the way...
hmm that actually sounds pretty reasonable now that I write it. now I just gotta find this The Left guy
The WWII Monument
Literally commemorates antifa soldiers. Read a book.
Come on.
Comparing anti nazi soldiers in WW2 to Antifa is like when right wingers say Democrats are the party of the KKK.
And yet, antifascism is still antifascism
Folks who screech and spray spit about "anTEEEEfa!!!11!!1!" are unlikely to be in possession of any actual facts about antifa, but at the same time, while every European theater soldier (on the US side) in WWII could be called an "anti nazi soldier", it certainly wasn't true that every US soldier was "anti nazi". Despite what people believe now, US military personnel in WWII contained nearly twice as many draftees as volunteers; they weren't all hard-charging "anti nazi" or antifascists. Those who were, were not unlike those who fight against fascism in the US today -- with the important difference that back then, they had government backing and support, whereas nowadays, antifascists are actively attacked by our government and by trained seals on the internet. How far we have fallen.
Yea I get that.
But I'm willing to bet today's ANTIFA has zero in common with any sort of soldier of most Americans in general.
based on what?
??
You are joking right?
have you ever talked to a member of the military and asked them what they think of Antifa?
Why don't you start there.
???
i don’t follow. leaving aside that antifa isn’t an organization, what does that have to do with anything?
Modern day "antifa" isn't associated with people who hate nazis
Just google "antifa members" and you will see a certain demographic. It doesn't matter if they are organized or not organized, just like Phish fans, Oakland Raiders fans, or D&D fans aren't "organizations".
I mean would you consider Earth First! and organisation? It really just is what it is, its a group of people who do certain actions together.
Is this a "selfawarewolves" thing?
You're right! These groups are people who have common interests - Phish fans are everyone who's a fan of Phish, Raiders fans are everyone who likes the Raiders, and D&D fans are everyone who is a fan of D&D.
And therefore, to continue your argument, Antifa is everyone who is against fascism. Thanks for playing!
Again no.
Back to my original point. If you are a republican, does that mean you support aggressive anti-racist policies like the republicans in 1830? If you are a democrat, does that mean you are a racist POS since your party founded the KKK?
I know you are being sarcastically obtuse here which if fine, but I find it comical that people are trying to do this with antifa when they know it isn't right. Usually the left is much smarter than that.
I don't think that's a good analogy
I don't think that's a good analogy. Perhaps you could argue that "antifa" isn't actually anti-facist, but you have to actually make that point, it doesn't come for free.
The reason it's silly to compare modern Democrats to the Democrats that started the KKK is that their ideology is the opposite. You're right that "antifa" and US soldiers in WWII aren't necessarily "on the same side", but it's not analogous to Dems/KKK unless you can show that they are actually fighting for the opposite thing.
While many WWII soldiers would probably disagree with "antifa" tactics, I bet they would also be pretty pissed to see people marching with literal Nazi flags (which doesn't happen all of the time, but has been happening too often). I bet they'd want to punch them, too. Frankly, I bet most of them would be pretty upset to see that this is what they fought for.
Yes that is true.
But I think 99% of Americans disagree with nazi flags, and that same 99% probably don't support "Antifa" or their tactics.
Or the related arson
Hey antifa that doesn't exist...we work to build and improve this country, you pricks are trying to burn it down and replace it with marxist bullshit and 'free stuff'.
Fuck you. See you in November.
Have a good and safe Labor Day holiday weekend.
Strange comaparison
The reference to political parties of the 1830s is way off the mark.
1. The Republican Party did not exist in 1830. So that comparison refers to a blank.
2. The Democratic Party of the Civil War era is completely different from the Democratic Party that arose from the 19th and 20th century urbanization and immigration.
3. The Republican Party which did evolve from the Whig Party is 180 degrees opposite it's namesake today. Donald Trump would have been set aside in a high chair with a dunce hat required to write on a chalk board a hundres times "I will act like an adult and not a petulant spoiled brat."
Before accuse people of being obtuse attempt to make sure that your facts are correct. One could say it is comical when a person attempts to sound smart and witty can't take the time to verify that there historical references are correct.
Again you know who I mean.
Radical Republicans, Whigs before that, etc. They aren't the republican party we know today. the fact is they are all different than the Republican Party is today, same as those who would called themselves "anti fascist" 50 years ago, wouldn't call themselves "antifa" today.
Fixed this For You
Isn't this a logical game?
All Antifa are anti-fascist
some anti-fascists are not Antifa
All anti-fascists are Antifa.
Is this what you are saying? I mean I'm going off precursor that Antifa is an actual thing. A movement who some "support" and would consider being a part of.
begging the question
i guess i can see where you're coming from, but the imprecise language is more of a problem than you seem to accept. "Antifa" is used by the right to describe white agents of chaos when it's not convenient to outrightly denounce the larger movement.
It is indeed a game for right wingers
A propaganda game where the right is looking to paint ALL anti-fascism as something bad.
The consequences, where cops pepper spray and beat anti-fascist protesters with clubs but hand out water bottles and let right wing murderers walk home untouched are not a game
Not what they are doing.
Democracy in itself is anti-fascist. The Right wingers don't like protesters, people who block traffic, or those who dress in black and have pink hair in general (not saying antifa is made up of people like that).
Most people who hate fascism don't protest, block traffic, and they don't have pink hair (most fascists also don't have pink hair)
This is Incorrect
Democracy in itself is not automatically anti-fascist. You can voluntarily surrender and vote for a fascist. Of course in this country, fascists can also corrupt the democratic process through suppression, and/or weighting the minority of certain white votes over the majority through various constructs.
Thanks for agreeing with me that right-wingers are attempting to demonize the people protesting fascism, though.
Another logic game isn't it?
Right wingers do try to demonize anyone blocking traffic regardless of the cause.
This is Just Childish Gaslighting
Got it, right wingers aren't trying to demonize anti-fascists because of their political views, it's only because they're "blocking traffic!"
What about these protesters? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_anti-lockdown_protests
Stop playing the fool
Yea they march into buildings with guns....
Still different.
I just wanted to point out
I just wanted to point out that it's rare for the nested comments to get *this* small on here! Good work.
Impossible comparison
Where I disagree is that people who would call themselves anti fascist 50 years would not call themselves anti fascist today. That is a comparison that can not be made. The past is forever closed. It is impossible to what individuals who considered themselves anti fascist in the past would also consider themselves anti fascist in the present.
Not what I'm saying
but compare the Nazis then.
Is there a difference between trying to stop 1938 Fascism and 2020 Fascism?
A comparison of Nazis between today and 60 years ago
60 years ago the idea of NAZI was still relatively new. For that matter it was a concept hijacked and changed by Hitler to follow fascism of Mussolini. While the idea of a state ruled by an absolute king was nothing new, the idea of a totalitarian nation-state using the apparatuses of industry, massive propaganda and the idea of nationalism were still fairly new or very new. So there we have major differences.
A major similarity however is the demand for some kind of purity. For Nazi beliefs that purity was based on false science of race. However, it also incoporated and rewrote the religious based hatred of Christians against Jews.
On the other hand fascism today still relies upon the deceit, lies and manipulation of their political ancestors. The basis of some kind purity also exists within modern fascism (Nazi, etc.) in the US. For some it is expressed in the language of pseudo-science of race. But it's expression is expressed in this nation in the form of religion, specifically by the various militant right wing religious, including Evangelical leaders.
Differences between stopping fascism in 38 versus today. That is a book unto itself.
A good comparison however between anti-fascists of the early part of the 20th century and today can be found by studying the writings of people who fought agains the fascist Franco. That includes Eric Blair (aka, George Orwell).
I believe that the underlying motivation of fascism remains largely the same. It is based on a power elite, a pure elite, extreme stratification and hierarchy and is free with condemning anyone who does not fit.
Anti-fascism opposed fascism and supports a society that is fundamentally free from oppression, absolutism or other forms of government that boils down to the powerful and the powerless.
The hard thing is that fascists never truly went away. They have grown and become far more prominent during the past 4 years. Anti-fascists have not been needed until the rise of Trump gave the call to American fascists to rise up to power.
Google "drinking the kool-aid"
Because that is what you are doing here.
THERE ARE NO ANTIFA MEMBERS.
Those websites you see - look up who owns them, dear.
Wow. You are gullible.
Ok then that makes it easy.
If there are no ANTIFA members, then Ike could not be ANTIFA or support it.
The websites on google are pretty consistent across the board.
The logic fails
Antifa is not an organization; it is a belief. Antifa is a belief that fascism is bad. If Ike was anti-fascist then he would qualify as following antifa belief
Antifa is not an organization; never has been. Therefore it would be impossible for Ike to have been a member since there was not organization for him to be a member of.
To claim that Ike could not support antifa because it is not an organization is like saying an apple doesn't swim because it is not a fish. Completely unrelated. To say that Ike could not support anti-fascist beliefs is odd since he helped lead a war against fascists.
'THERE ARE NO ANTIFA MEMBERS.'
Of course not. They're just teachers...
'Those websites you see - look up who owns them, dear.
Wow. You are gullible.'
Of course. All the burned out buildings...just reverse Potemkin Villages set up by Qanon, right?
Please don't bring active military into a domestic political
argument. They have opinions. They fight overseas and are routinely antagonized and confronted by Russian troops. Incidents ignored by Donald Trump. Happened again last week in Syria.
Yea but I know a few hundred of them
They usually have similar opinions on lots of things. I'm not naming any names, don't worry.
Joe McCarthy and his infamous list
Joe McCarthy claimed he could identify every Communist and Homosexual in the US. He frequently waved a list of names. However no one ever saw that list.
And don't forget RFK helped
And don't forget RFK helped Roy Cohn with the list.
That says more about the
That says more about the military getting radicalized by right wingers than it does anything else.
Oh Pete
I'm a veteran and an antifascist.
Your "bogeyman" organization isn't. Antifa is a philosophy, not group.
If you ever served, you would know that active duty service people are rather constrained when it comes to demonstrations, etc. So we don't know who they support or what they think because maintaining order and mission focus are considered more important (ever hear of the Ward Room Rules, dear? They teach you those in the Navy from day 1 ... or at least used to).
But those who have retired are supporting BLM and I know/know of a substantial number of vets who are active in the protests against the jackbooted CBP Pinkertons in Portland.
I leave you with this video of a career military man who dared confront the pinkertons about their oaths:
Yea I'm an antifascist too.
Don't be obtuse here. If Ike were alive he would want 2020 Antifa members to be thrown in jail.
And you aren't Antifa. You know it and I know it.
I'm not the obtuse one
You are drinking the right wing kool-aid.
My fucking realtor in PDX was in the wall of moms, honey.
You are against facism? Really? Funny how you do nothing but aid, abet, and enable it here by making excuses for any and every exercise of it that conveniently doesn't fit your definition.
lol
Again, you aren't Antifa. That was my only point.
Wow
You think antifa has leadership and members.
And all those Russian-government owned Antifa websites have convinced you of this.
LOL.
lol ok swirls..
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/06/16/who-is-antifa-america-elle-reev...
Here is a right wing website looking into this group and all of the people who aren't members because there is no such thing as an unorganized affiliation with something right?
Hey, Pete...
Swirl is just about as leftie as it gets. Maybe she thinks she can keep her 'well paid' gigs when the revolution comes.
Perhaps, but any serious study of the French Revolution shows where that path leads.
A while back, the confused lady (that uses veiled insults like 'Dear' and 'Honey' which today would lead to charges under the UCMJ) was pushing these clowns...
Any serious study of the French Revolution?
Acknowledges that happened in the 18th century. The US can not be compared to a 18th century France. Although an irony of the French Revolution is that it was inspired by the "American Revolution," which was hardly a revolution. Insurrection, not revolution.
But the constant refrain of far left and leftie tells me that the speaker is showing their ignorance. The symbol of American left, labor unions, are no less conservative than corporate managers. They share in the competition for getting as much of the economic pie as possible. Social issues are secondary and usually only addressed when there is an economic interest.
Of the few, the less than .1% of Americans who would identify themselves as far left, they are vastly fewer in number than thousands of sovereign nationalists and other KKK, neo-Naze groups that are toting around weapons of mass destruction in places where they pretend to be the law and order.
In this nation fear of the far left is equal to another far word: farce.
yeah...
i don’t think you’re making the point you think you are
My point is that Ike isn't going to join an Anfifa group.
And he wouldn't support their 2020 activities. That doesn't mean Ike loves fascists.
LOL
Antifa group?
Really?
Wow. Put down the Russian-owned propaganda websites pretending to be Antifa HQ. You have been duped, dear.
That reminds me, I was re
That reminds me, I was re-reading the minutes of the last Antifa meeting--I was called-out because my dues were in arrears! I better get that squared away quickly or they'll stop mailing me the Antifa newsletter!
I'm not even saying that.
There are real people who say they are Antifa or support that group. I'm betting most people who hate fascism would not identify themselves with Anfifa or support the group (not some of the things you might see online anyway).
Can't read the minds of the dead
Peter: You can't read minds, much less of the dead. You do not know what Ike of the 50s would say about people who today are standing up against the political descendants of Joe McCarthy? Remember Senator Joe? One of America's contributions to alcoholic demagoguery and would be fascism.
You might remember that Ike also coined the term miliitary-industrial complex. An idea that just happened to be a strong element in helping Nazi Germany wage war. Such ironies.
You are right Daan.
But I think you know what I mean.
I mean, McCarthy is tough because some of our far left Civil Rights leaders (JFK/RFK) were probably supporting McCarthy at many levels. These same democrats where pretty far left when it came to Civil Rights and other domestic issues so there are periods of American history which have so many different angles on this subject.
Disagree
Peter, I disagree. One it is impossible to deduce what Ike Eisenhower would think today. Not only because of assumptions about what constitutes "antifa" but also because Ike had direct observation of Germany Nazis and Italian fascists. We can not know whether he would look at Trump and his industrial, commercial and government supporters and see that as proto-fascist and therefore support and possibly guide the anti-fascist spirit that is antifa.
Your claim that JFK and RFK negates part of your statement. They are weak ad hominen attacks of using silly terms such as far left. That you associate Civil Rights as some kind of far left domestic issue (and far left is always a proxy for TOTALITARIAN COMMUNISTS) belies a belief that civil rights are somehow unAmeican.
Well we know how many traditionalists think today right?
Are we talking about 30 year old Ike today? 75 year old Ike? We know what most Americans think about "Antifa" (even though Swirrly says they don't exist) What would your guess be?
The mention of JFK is to show how "far left" in domestic circles could also mean "anti communist" in the same circle (70 years ago). And many Catholic Democrats and the Kennedy's who were supported by them also had these stances. Is that not true?
If you tell someone today that you were "Far Left" in 1960, you would probably be admired (today) as being a hero and pro civil rights (which 99% of Americans today would support). Tell someone you are "far left" in 2020? You might be seen as a Antifa freak. Mabye that changes in 2050? I'm guessing the people in 2050 would laugh at the characters seen in the images if you googled "antifa people".
Still disagree
Calling JFK and RFK far left and now bifurcating the term into the far left of the 1960s and the far left of the 2020s is confusing if not bordering on misleading.
Far left of the 60s were people who questioned and challenged the assumption that Capitalism and American consumerist society were necessarily ideal. While some folks on the far left still foolishly looked to an ideal state of Marxian Communism, most of the left advocated (knowingly or not) an ideal society closer to early Christianity than the modern Totalitarian explication of the concept of Communism.
The far left of the 60s nevertheless challenged the assumption that the best kind of society is one where everyone is pitted against each other in a dog eat dog world of constant competition, where cooperation is secondary value but where competition, all all levels from individual to society as a whole, is treated as the best political-economic philosophy.
Far left and left of the 60s in the US included a presumed openness in society. Far right and right of the 60s presumed that society should be closed to only a set number, rejecting any who are different.
Today is mostly the same. Left means openness, big tent; right means closed, exclusive.
The nation as a whole has shifted to the more limited, restrictive philosophy over the past 60 years. That I believe reflects the changing of the US from the only super power to having to match wits with the Soviet Union. Today of course the US now has to match wits with a new super power, Communist China, which figured out how to maintain a totalitarian government while becoming an economic powerhouse.
That shift was encouraged and promoted by the anxiety and paranoia of Nixon, the validation of Great Greed and Selfishness by the Reagan administration, the economic vacuum that has put the most money into the fewest hands and the purchase and perversion of the Evangelical Christian community as the foot soldiers of the extreme right. By extreme right I mean not just politicians but, for example, the literal descendants of the founders of the John Birch society, the two Koch brothers who promoted rightwing organizations. Add to that the development and ascendancy of extreme right wing academic societies such as The Federalist Society, Cato Institute, Hoover Institute, George Mason University and it cabal extreme right wing academics. A painful example being James Buchanan who provided the philosophy justification for Augusto Pinochet's reign of terror in Chile.
A way to sum this up: In American there is far more blood and a present far greater threat to the positive American values of community, family, as nation of "the many," and the spirit of what the Founders started in the 18th century.
Another way of saying this is that while the nation is many ways has shifted leftward, that is toward "the many" in e pluribus unum, the people who are scared of the idea of the many, of diversity and difference, are fighting tooth and nail to create just the unum. In the case of today's far right, but much of the less extreme right, that includes white, male dominated, some kind of conservative Christian, with some allowance for Jews, and an economic stratification which begrudgingly allows for the presence of some women and non-whites in positions of power.
Leaving aside your contorted syntax...
...there are quite a number of veterans who are active resisters of Trump's fascism.
Umberto Eco grew up in Fascist Italy
Try reading his essay on "ur-fascism" and the traits those regimes share and see if you can really say that Trump and his cohorts don't fit the bill in what they're trying to do.
Whatever it takes to retain power is okay with republican voters
You are what you vote for.
Last Known Antifa Leader in his office
I think he's going to sign this and go get some soup.
Given your age, how did you spend the Vietnam years?
Your comment borders on treason
President Eisenhower was no more antifa than Pete Nice, you clown.
They existed in pre-war Germany.
Maybe Greta, the Science Based Climate Expert didn't get the message.
Calling Treason now?
In TV land I think that is called Jumping the Shark. That is what's used for shutting down and out a discussion. It creates a "I'm right and you're wrong" environment. Just as point of clarification: That is what fascists do.
Ann Coulter called
Ann Coulter called. She wants her self-serving bullshit definition of "treason" back.
A teenager?
Putin has his claws in our executive branch and his propaganda army dominates social media disinformation and the “antifa” boogie person you come up with is a teenaged activist from Sweden? A teenager from Sweden!?
What a f*cking joke.
So...
You're just coming out and saying "antifascist" is bad?
I'm just shaking my head at the self-own here. Are these people wearing converse parody t-shirts striking fear in your heart?
lol treason
on what planet?
Statue Lives Matter
The ‘Statue Lives Matter’ contingent has inserted a totally non sequitur change-the-subject comment into the thread.
Antifa doesn’t exist and is a right wing boogie man. And when was the last time any statue in Boston was vandalized in connection with racial justice unrest? June?
And yes, “Antifa” definitely monitors UHub to recon new statues and memorials to destroy. Great hot take.
Laura's gonna do Ten Years in Prison(tm)!
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/hurricane-laura-confederate-statue...
Not the first time this statue has been toppled
The statue has been restored each of the previous "several" times that it has been toppled. It will be interesting to see what Lake Charles residents decide to do now.
Actual troops support Biden
They aren't stupid. I imagine they've noticed that Biden is one of the vanishingly few people high in the government who have actually had a child go to war.
you sure?
looks to me like you just called 37% of active-duty troops stupid
Historically, servicepeople tend to support
conservative leaders. The fact that Biden is leading Trump by four points is shocking, or would be if Trump weren't so awful in his treatment of the military, as I documented above -- while forgetting to mention his astonishing, hateful silence on the Russian bounties issue.
You go ahead and continue to pretend all those things aren't there. I can only assume you have no connection to the military, or don't give a shit about anyone you know that does have one.
Well ...
If they support someone who continually demeans and derides them, considers them his own private army when the monsters under the bed act up or he wants to threaten someone, does not do a single thing when a friend of his puts bounties on their head, and constantly claims to support veterans while claiming credit for legislation his predecessor signed?
I'd say they at the very least have another think coming.
Folks who like order supporting a man who likes chaos?
Please offer some explanations of why any soldier would support a man with the following characteristics:
Demeans deceased and live soldiers. Refused to honor the American soldiers who died in France in WW 1.
Chose to ignore reports that his friend Putin and his frenemy Iran sponsored bounties for the heads of American soldiers.
Is a leader whose style is fundamentally based on chaos.
Is a leader who demands person loyalty (which is what Hitler did) putting himself ahead of where loyalty belongs: defending and protecting the Constitution.
I'm all eyes and ears....
Is that all?
50% of people are below average intelligence.
In this current moment, how
In this current moment, how could anybody take a serious look at the American People, or any subgroup thereof, and not conclude that it's plausible that 37% of them are stupid? Honest to God, that number feels low.
More Trump crap
Here's a story about Trump insulting individual generals who worked for him, variously calling them liars, "not tough enough," or "human scum," and claiming that he knows more about military matters than they do.
I am a veteran. I served in Vietnam -- not just during that war, but in it. While I find Trump's remarks about dead and living veterans stupid and reprehensible, they are typical of his attitude toward everyone who isn't him. I don't really understand how that escaped everyone who's now outraged by these remarks. They should not be surprised.
The man had life handed to him on a silver platter, with the only apparent condition that he never, ever, admit to failing, or even making a mistake. He has lived his life as an expression of that. He is always instantly ready to blame somebody else for anything that goes wrong, to criticize anyone who does things he wouldn't do, and to insist that everything he does is "perfect" and "great." Nothing that comes out of his mouth or his keyboard is worth listening to, or ever has been. People who voted for him should have known better, and acted stupidly. Those who still support him are dangerously stupid. If he continues in office, the American Experiment is over, and will end in failure.
Trump has contempt for people who enlist in military service
He thinks they are suckers and loosers. Just as he cannot understand them I cannot understand him.
Trump is projecting once
Trump is projecting once again. Deep down he knows he is the loser. His daddy got him out of military service. How embarrassing. Diaper Donald cried about having a pretend boo boo on his foot. How embarrassing. The behavior of a true loser. He is jealous of those who are more courageous than him which is pretty much everyone but Ted Nugent.
Another Adam temper tantrum
Using the memorials in Adams Park, what a flimsy excuse to bash the President. And over yet another anonymously sourced hit piece that has been denied on the record by six officials (and counting) that were there.
This website is free, and you
This website is free, and you don't even have to come here.
You don't have to believe the reporting by The Atlantic, which has now been confirmed by at least The Washington Post and the AP. But the alleged rhetoric is sure in line with previous comments publicly made about those who have served and sacrificed for our country. And he's decided to insult John McCain again late last night, by claiming among other things, that he did more for veterans because he got Veterans Choice passed and McCain didn't. Unfortunately, in the world bound by facts, for which he does not live, Veterans Choice was a law signed by the previous president, and was sponsored by John McCain himself. So again, you can believe what you chose to believe, but that may be the wrong choice.
Adding to the list of outlets
Adding to the list of outlets confirming the details of The Atlantic's reporting, Fox News: https://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1301975321495973889
Trump called McCain a loser for being captured
- The piece was verified by 3 news organizations
- There is a public record of Trump McCain a loser in public (Twitter: 7/18/15). So we we already know he says this stuff.
- Trump is a documented white supremacist piece of sh*t
- Trump is credibly accused of sexual assault and rape
No one needs an excuse, flimsy or otherwise, to bash a person who is as contemptible as child molesters and murderers (and also happens to occupy the White House).
John McCain didn't invite Donald Trump to his funeral.
John McCain didn't invite Donald Trump to his Funeral. Fairly shortly before his passing due to a really malignant brain cancer (the name of which escapes me at the moment), he made that clear as the light of day, if one gets the drift.
Buddy
Just say you agree. Just say you agree that women should be groped, it's fine to fuck a porn star when your third wife is still recovering from the birth of the son you don't care about. Just say you do think Mexicans are rapists. Just say you also think John McCain was a loser for getting captured in Vietnam. No-one if forcing you to defend Trump so just own it, Willy.
What's your favorite part? The corruption? The $3T trade deficit Trump promised to eliminate? The ignoring of Russian bounties on our troops?
You boot lickers are so quick to get mad about any criticism of Trump without actually specifying which Trump policy and success that is worth defending.
the president's allies deny yet another damaging story
case closed!
Everything republicans proclaim to support is a lie.
They are cuckservatives. A submissive cult.
And yet
The AP, that bastion of centralist and middle of the road non-partisanship and factual reporting, has run an article confirming.
https://apnews.com/b823f2c285641a4a09a96a0b195636ed
LOL. Trump denies saying
LOL. Trump denies saying things we have video of him saying, for Christ's sake.
Second news account ...
Associated Press reports:
"was told about" = Hearsay
firsthand knowledge of events, as we all have, but which ones?
Many Such Memorials in Roslindale
Many of the street intersections in Roslindale bear the names of lost soldiers from WWI and WWII and later wars.
My great-grand uncle, Thomas Donley was also lost in WWI after Adams and his memory is facilitated at Thomas Donley Sq. at the intersection of Cummins Highway and Brown Ave. Similar memorials are all over Roslindale. Sadly, the City of Boston has little to no information on these memorials from that time period and it le left to remaining family members to carry on the interest and the story.
Yes
I have often wished there was a city website/wiki simply detailing who these guys were, that are commemorated across the city with signs.
Capstone project
This would be a great capstone project for a high school history class or for college independent study credits. Catalog all the memorials > catalog who is memorialized > add a short bio if possible.
Eagle Scout Project
This could be an eagle scout project, too. I will mention it to a scout leader friend to pass on to his Boston leader friends.
I'd contribute
I did manage to get my great-grand-uncle's name corrected on the sign not that long ago through the city, so there is some kind of effort happening there in some capacity. His gravestone also has the name misspelled but that cannot be fixed at this point of course. Lots of that back in those days.
I'd be pl;eased to contribute in any way.
I wrote a history of the former Mt Hope Railroad station on the main line railroad for area housing developers that were going to use the land that held the station at one time. My family dates back to the late 1800s in Roslindale. My great-grandfather was one of the people that responded to the Bussey Street Rail Bridge disaster. He actually had a minor injury there during the recovery process and had a settlement from the railroad.
The My Hope railroad Station.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9oHGoaxY23ITzRvVnpwcm42LUU/view?usp=sharing
Yes
It was done in Natick by a friend's son:
https://natick.wickedlocal.com/news/20181028/natick-boy-scout-honors-mil...
The city is working on a project
In fact, you can go here to see what is going on. It's pretty sparse with information, but they have beefed up many of the pages.
Buried under Trump's BS are some legitimate historical questions
such as:
Were there any 'good guys' in World War I?
Was there any reason for the US to pick one side over the other? Or to enter the war at all?
Had Germany won, or at least been less humiliated, might we have avoided Nazism and the subsequent second war?
Good questions
They can not be answered since the past is closed. But there are lessons that can be taken.
Humiliation never helps. The German state was virutually decimated. It's former political organization forced into a form of political organization (parliamentary) where no experience had existed. The French government wanted specifically punish the Germans in retaliation for the Franco-Prussian war. So the end of WW1 was at a level a continuation of the Franco-Prussian War.
WW 1 itself was a continuation of a belief that this was just another, not unlike previous wars. It would end soon enough. What no one understood is that warring technology changed the entire game. Chemical weapons, attacks by air, far deadlier weapons than used in the past and the development of static trench warfare.
Avoiding Nazism and Fascism are two complicated and interrelated questions. They demand considering the power of nationalism; the power of demagoguery, the weakness of new created democractic-republics. They also require examining how other forces, including religion and historical bigotries come into play. They also require consideration of how scientific theories are used and abused. The Nazi concept of race itself was (and is) a false concept which was nevertheless support by other western nations, especially the US.Where Germans used pseudo-science to declare Jews a sub-human race white Americans used pseudo-science to replace the religious theories supporting the oppression and subjugation of non-whites, especially Blacks.
We are still fighting to remove from cultures some of the poisonous plants that flourished in Nazi, fascist ideologies, Eugenics pseudo-sciences, etc.
We were mostly trying to mind
We were mostly trying to mind our own business and maintain diplomatic neutrality while Germany worked to get Mexico to start a war with us. From an American perspective, I'd say that anyone trying to start a war against the US is a bad guy. Yes, we were sending supplies across the Atlantic to our European allies, but Germany was also sinking those ships and we didn't declare war on them for that reason alone.
Actually, we did
But that is why we declared war on Germany. Pacifist President Woodrow Wilson, relying on Germany's Sussex Pledge, vowed to keep the US neutral. When Germany decided that unrestricted submarine attacks could win them the war, they violated their pledge and started sinking neutral ships. Wilson had made neutrality conditional on that pledge.
So the Zimmermann Telegram
So the Zimmermann Telegram played no role in our declaration of war?
Another ultra-left commie pinko "news" source checks in
Oh, sorry, no, I meant Fox News's national security correspondent: