Karyn Regal at WBZ Newsradio reports the company that runs the Chelsea Street Bridge has fired the two workers on duty when the bridge's center span rose with an occupied car on it on Friday.
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A woman was crushed on the
By anon
Mon, 01/24/2022 - 7:44pm
A woman was crushed on the meridian street side a few years back. Something in the water over there in Chelsea creek these bridge tenders need to be better vetted
Maybe
By Bob Leponge
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 11:20am
Maybe it’s the bridge tenders. Or maybe it’s the designers.
https://humanisticsystems.com/2018/02/25/human-fac...
My bet
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 9:01pm
The people in the truck knew the bridge tenders and it was a pre-arranged stunt.
So I don't get to blame government?
By Will LaTulippe
Mon, 01/24/2022 - 8:20pm
I guess everyone is a stupid idiot who sucks, then.
ah don't worry
By anon
Mon, 01/24/2022 - 8:33pm
there are plenty of bridge tender's jobs around.
File under... Duh
By Matt Frank
Mon, 01/24/2022 - 9:42pm
File under... Duh
Firing them was an absolute. I still would like to know why they don't have digital fail safes in place.
And no gates, either
By Charles Bahne
Mon, 01/24/2022 - 11:15pm
The video shows that multiple gates came down across the road at that end, and presumably at the other end, too. But there were no gates on the part of the span that went up. She could have easily driven (or walked, or jumped) right off the end of the roadway.
What are they supposed to do
By anon
Mon, 01/24/2022 - 11:57pm
What are they supposed to do if some person drives onto the bridge and refuses to get off? I bet this person was looking at their phone and WHOOPSIE!!! Give the bridge tenders back their jobs and take the driver's license away.
Don't raise the bridge?
By lbb
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 8:45am
Don't raise the bridge when there's a vehicle on it? I admit to complete ignorance of how this works, but wouldn't you think they'd visually verify that the bridge is clear before pushing the bridge-go-up button?
ETA: assuming there IS a bridge-go-up button...I sure hope so, and not that there's one button you push that activates the barriers and waits a set time and then just raises the section regardless of what's going on.
What? Are you suggesting that
By Matt Frank
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 9:47am
What? Are you suggesting that even if they saw the car there they should raise it anyway?
This ranks right up there with driving into a crowd blocking the highway because "hey you shouldn't be protesting on the highway."
Even if the driver has any fault in ending up on the bridge , raising it would be reckless. If they saw the car and it wouldn't move, the proper response is to call the police and a tow truck. While the operators clearly were negligent here, I know they wouldnt lift it if they thought someone was on it though.
is it really either or?
By cinnamngrl
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 10:32am
Shouldn't the driver lose their license and the bridge tenders be fired?
What are they supposed to do
By Scratchie
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 10:43am
Call the cops? Or literally anything else except raise the bridge?
Unless there's a boat with a wounded orphan aboard who's trying to get to a hospital, I can't image it would ever be that urgent.
With a puppy
By lbb
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 11:25am
With a puppy. Gotta be a puppy in there.
Pictures of the puppy, or no
By Rob
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 11:30am
Pictures of the puppy, or no deal.
I suppose next to be fired
By jmeltzer
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 7:39am
will be those who left that railroad crossing deactivated in Wilmington.
Right?
(BTW, that deserved to be covered here)
Despite the MBTA's announcement Sunday morning
By roadman
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 10:40am
that a signal maintainer was to blame, there are still some unanswered questions.
Witnesses indicated that the gates didn’t come down before the crash. Yet, news footage of the scene taken after the crash shows that the gates were fully down. I don't doubt that the witnesses accounts are accurate, as it would explain how the woman ended up on the tracks. However, the question remains: How were the gates activated after the crash?
Railroad grade crossing systems operate on the principle that electricity is required to keep them deactivated (lights off, gates up). When a train approaches, it "shunts" the circuit, cutting off the current, and causing the signals to activate. It's designed to be "fail safe" - if there's no power for any reason, it activates.
Normally during maintenance or repairs, which could be anything from adjusting the resistance of a track circuit (this is often required in cold or snowy/rainy weather) to replacing components, signal technicians will intentionally energize the master control relay (usually with jumper wires) to prevent the lights and gates from activating while doing their work. This is done to minimize disruption to road traffic, but prevents the detection system from working as designed. However, overriding the ‘fail safe” in this manner disables the entire system, not just a portion of the system.
In rare occasions, including an especially tragic collision in McClean, Illinois in the late 1980s, signal technicians have been known to inadvertently leave the jumper wires connected, thus disabling the “fail safe” protection and rendering the crossing detection inoperative. While the signal technicians were eventually found in fault in these cases, this was only after weeks, if not months, of investigation by the NTSB or other agencies. Yet the MBTA assigns and announces fault in less than two days, and over a weekend to boot.
Not rushing to the signal maintainer's defense, but something doesn’t quite seem to add up here.
The Globe got it
By jmeltzer
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 10:37am
Front page stories Sunday and Monday.
And social media north of the river got it too. I'm in Arlington, Wilmington is something like two towns up, and people around here do get off at West Medford and would have been delayed. So it was news.
Thanks for the clarification
By roadman
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 10:46am
Have deleted that portion of my comment. Initially got a couple of stories about it on my Facebook feed Saturday morning, but they had been pulled when I went back to read them later
Also important to note
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 8:59pm
People have been caught on the tracks with the gates coming down because it never occurred to them to not sit in traffic on the tracks.
That happened in Belmont a few years back.
Bottom line: if traffic is stopped, don't go onto the tracks until you can completely cross. Even if some jackass goes around you for not moving onto the tracks, don't do it! (yes, this has happened to me at West Medford before).
Placed on leave
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 8:55pm
The person is on leave pending investigation.
Because it may not have been their fault.
What do you call it when a
By Refugee
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 7:41am
What do you call it when a draw/lift bridge goes up while you're still on it? Is there a word for it?
An uplifting experience?
By Rob
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 7:51am
An uplifting experience?
A letdown?
A mood swing?
Luck of the draw
By Ron Newman
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 10:44am
You got to know
By roadman
Tue, 01/25/2022 - 10:50am
When to raise it. Know when to drop it. Know when cars are still on there. Know when they're not. with apologies to Kenny Rodgers
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