Police are investigating gunfire at St. Botolph and Gainsborough streets around 2:15 a.m. on Monday. Sgt. Luke Taxter at District D-4 reports nobody was hit.
I don't know what that is. So I asked on Twitter (I'll so miss Twitter when it disappears). People told me it was, variously: Fenway, the South End, even the Back Bay.
I went with Fenway because of its Zip code (02115) and because, apparently, people who live there get Fenway/Kenmore parking stickers.
Bostonography replied with this helpful map, from their earlier efforts to crowdsource Boston neighborhood lines, which will probably give me nightmares tonight:
That's close to the East Fenway, but south of Huntington.
Generally, when people are talking about "The Fenway", they're referring to the West Fenway and the area toward Kenmore, bounded on the south and west by the parkway called "Fenway". However, the Fenway Civic Association would take umbrage to you telling them they're not in the Fenway.
This area, though, I just consider the start of Roxbury. Do we have a judge's decision as to where the East Fenway ends? I've considered it to end at the north side of Huntington and the west side of Mass Ave.
As a long time resident of "West" Fenway, I consider "East" Fenway to be the area between Huntington Ave/Mass Ave and Ruggles on one side Longwood on the other, so that is most of the Northeastern Campus, the MFA, colleges of the Fenway. Outside of that you are in Roxbury, Longwoood Medical, South End/Backbay. The Park is the border between East and West Fenway
Alternatively: Fenway Cultural District. And I am speaking as a longtime resident of Huntington Ave, who just came from my polling place, steps away from the site of the shooting. "Fenway" is the other side of the Back Bay Fens, where the sportsball stadium is.
I lived a block away form there and we called it the "symphony" area, as Fenway generally meant on the Fenway or on the Fenway park side. That was until Roxbury tried to secede, and we were surprised they were goign to take us along with them had it passed...
That would be the 1890s. The Fenway was never part of the Back Bay. The Back Bay landfill project was officially completed when it reached today's Mass Ave. A separate landfill and landscape architecture effort created the Fens and the Fenway neighborhood over the half-decade or so after the Back Bay project was complete.
That's a great question, but the fact remains that the state passed special legislation to authorize the filling of the Back Bay, and the bounds set by that act were the Common (Charles Street), the Mill Dam (Beacon Street), Boston Neck (roughly Tremont), and Gravelly Point (Mass Ave).
On St. Botolph at Mass Ave, there's two or three Fenway/Kenmore resident permit parking signs. The colleges all along there are known as the "Fenway Colleges," even though some of them are more in Mission Hill or Longwood Medical.
As far as I can tell, the "Fenway" designation ends at the backs of the buildings that face Huntington Avenue.
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Fenway?
Since when has that area (northeastern/symphony) been considered Fenway???
Sigh ...
I don't know what that is. So I asked on Twitter (I'll so miss Twitter when it disappears). People told me it was, variously: Fenway, the South End, even the Back Bay.
I went with Fenway because of its Zip code (02115) and because, apparently, people who live there get Fenway/Kenmore parking stickers.
Bostonography replied with this helpful map, from their earlier efforts to crowdsource Boston neighborhood lines, which will probably give me nightmares tonight:
Ahh, Boston
A tiny city where the residents fight endlessly over meaningless boundaries that exist only in their heads.
It's not meaningless when you
It's not meaningless when you're selling your condo...
not sure what to call that area
That's close to the East Fenway, but south of Huntington.
Generally, when people are talking about "The Fenway", they're referring to the West Fenway and the area toward Kenmore, bounded on the south and west by the parkway called "Fenway". However, the Fenway Civic Association would take umbrage to you telling them they're not in the Fenway.
This area, though, I just consider the start of Roxbury. Do we have a judge's decision as to where the East Fenway ends? I've considered it to end at the north side of Huntington and the west side of Mass Ave.
East Fenway
As a long time resident of "West" Fenway, I consider "East" Fenway to be the area between Huntington Ave/Mass Ave and Ruggles on one side Longwood on the other, so that is most of the Northeastern Campus, the MFA, colleges of the Fenway. Outside of that you are in Roxbury, Longwoood Medical, South End/Backbay. The Park is the border between East and West Fenway
Symphony
Alternatively: Fenway Cultural District. And I am speaking as a longtime resident of Huntington Ave, who just came from my polling place, steps away from the site of the shooting. "Fenway" is the other side of the Back Bay Fens, where the sportsball stadium is.
While I don't disagree with you....
It's just funny that the actual Fenway road is indeed on the East side of the Fens.
It is until it isn't
I lived a block away form there and we called it the "symphony" area, as Fenway generally meant on the Fenway or on the Fenway park side. That was until Roxbury tried to secede, and we were surprised they were goign to take us along with them had it passed...
Since whenever the Back Bay
Since whenever the Back Bay kicked the Fenway out of being part of the Back Bay?
That would be the 1890s. The
That would be the 1890s. The Fenway was never part of the Back Bay. The Back Bay landfill project was officially completed when it reached today's Mass Ave. A separate landfill and landscape architecture effort created the Fens and the Fenway neighborhood over the half-decade or so after the Back Bay project was complete.
Then why is it called the
Then why is it called the "Back Bay" Fens if it wasn't intended to be part of the Back Bay?
That's a great question, but
That's a great question, but the fact remains that the state passed special legislation to authorize the filling of the Back Bay, and the bounds set by that act were the Common (Charles Street), the Mill Dam (Beacon Street), Boston Neck (roughly Tremont), and Gravelly Point (Mass Ave).
It's the Fenway
I used to work over there.
On St. Botolph at Mass Ave, there's two or three Fenway/Kenmore resident permit parking signs. The colleges all along there are known as the "Fenway Colleges," even though some of them are more in Mission Hill or Longwood Medical.
As far as I can tell, the "Fenway" designation ends at the backs of the buildings that face Huntington Avenue.
It's considered "East Fenway"
It's considered "East Fenway"
These Fenway posts have been
These Fenway posts have been very productive in the discussion of how to stop gun violence.
Thanks everyone for your insightful input.
We just need to take away the
We just need to take away the shooters LTCs and pass one more law that the shooter sill be sure to follow.
No. We need to focus on the
No. We need to focus on the real issue here: the Fenway neighborhood borders.
yes
Because there's ever been a productive discussion about how to stop gun violence.