Nothing proclaims July 4th weekend quite like some stars and bars

"its a traitors flag representing slavery"

You sure can argue that, but without knowing the motivations of the person flying the flag that would simply be a waste of breath.

watching the witless dig themselves deeper into holes of illogic in the defense of the contemptible. I've gotten over that, thank goodness.

became a sensitive issue for the non American traitors.

confederate flag. The white flag of surrender. They were then welcomed back into the real America.

"I would make this war as severe as possible, and show no symptoms of tiring till the South begs for mercy."

"My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom."

Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman

The flag was created to represent an area that chose to leave the United States, to no longer be "Americans." It is akin to referring to those who fell at Lexington and Concord as "British," which makes more sense since in April of 1775 there was no declaration that they were not British.

If the Confederacy was successful, they would not be considered Americans. Period.

The Confederate States of America was not recognized as independent by any other nation. It was never an independent country - it was merely a failed secession. This was confirmed by Texas v. White, which addressed the issue of the rebel Texas government selling United States bonds to fund the war effort. The Supreme Court ruled that the confederate government was illegitimate and could not authorize the sale of U.S. bonds. They confirmed that the United States constitution did not allow states to secede. For these reasons, Texas (and any other Confederate state) had never been outside the Union and any state actions taken to declare secession or implement the Ordinance of Secession were null and void.

That being the case, how does the legitimate government of the United States invade itself?

You are simply engaging in mental masturbation and have demonstrated yourself to be a pseudo-intellect.

As for the Confederate flag being some sort of historically relic honoring the South's heritage - complete bullshit. Since the rise of the KKK and other white supremacist groups, the stars and bars have become a provocative symbol intend to intimidate and repress - in particular people of color.

I lived in the south in the 50s - I learned upfront and personal what the southern view was of decendents of slaves - not a whole bunch (particularly below the surface) has changed in the ensuing years.

"Attempts to present the South as victims of Northern aggression are pathetic."

I have done no such thing and have rejected such an argument within this thread. This is a strawman.

As I stated before the war was justified based upon the fact that they remained Americans and it was a war of reunification I SUPPORT THIS ARGUMENT.

Those that claim that the secessionists were not Americans reject the very basis for the war.

If one understands words like until and at this point and after. These words indicate the passage of a thing we call time, a useful concept when discussing conditions that are not immutable and unchanging. You are simplistically pretending that the rebels' condition of being Americans is immutable, and are trying to make that equivalent to historic events that, having once occurred, cannot be changed. It's as though you're arguing that Jeffrey Dahmer could not be a murdering cannibal because he was once a law-abiding grade-schooler.

One, it's a distinction without a difference. Two, I still think you're dense. And for shits and giggles, it sounds like you're trying to use apologetics to excuse racism and also slavery.