Boston Police tonight are painting a different picture of the conditions inside an apartment at 381 Old Colony Ave. in which they found a dead body Saturday morning than the one that had percolated in the local media and prompted condemnations by, among others, City Councilors Ed Flynn and Michael Flaherty.
Information that drugs and other concerning materials were strewn about the home is not supported by what officers encountered or by the information received on scene.
Police say officers responded to the apartment shortly after 11 a.m. after being called by adults there when they realized a friend had stopped breathing. The people who called were "fully cooperative" with the officers, police say.
There were four children on site who all had a parent present in the residence. The parents and the officers who responded felt it was best for the children to stay in another room with one of the parents and took steps to avoid having the children see the deceased. Due to the nature of the call, and to ensure appropriate follow up with the families involved, officers did file a 51A with DCF.
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So Flaherty and Flynn apologized, right?
By anon
Thu, 06/22/2023 - 11:01pm
Honestly, hope they get sued for libel.
Seeing that no names were released
By anon
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 6:54am
What are the damages.
You should look up definition of libel.
Be Careful What You Wish For...
By John Costello
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 7:26am
Discovery is a wonderful thing that doesn't always go the way you think it goes.
What motivation would the BFD and BPD people have to lie to Flaherty and Flynn? Why would they lie to their closest allies on the City Council?
Why?
By Bostoneer
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 8:16am
Because they benefit from manufacturing crime panics like this one? Seems pretty obvious really that they have credulous allies with power and have no one holding them accountable for their lies. So, why would they not?
Look Under Your Bed
By John Costello
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 8:25am
There are monsters!!
Your use of the word credulous shows your bias.
What consenting adults decide to do sexually behind closed doors is fine. When children are present, the game changes.
Get a real sign in and Adam, stop being so selective on when you post Anons. Thanks from the rest of us.
Yikes, John Boy!!! There are anons …
By Lee
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 10:28am
… under your bed!!!!!!!
Curious, what do you want re:anon posts?
By spin_o_rama
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 11:00am
Just trying to understand what you're on about here, thanks!
Selectivity By the Editors - Just like the Globe.
By John Costello
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 12:48pm
Adam has admitted in the past that he does not post a lot of Anon posts because he doesn't like what they say.
So you you want more posts with slurs/abuse/trolling?
By spin_o_rama
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 1:33pm
Would you be upset about ableist comments getting posted here or would you just be selectively outraged about anti-Catholic comments?
There is nothing stopping
By brianjdamico
Sat, 06/24/2023 - 8:39am
someone from registering for an account with a pseudonym that none of us could trace back to them. Those posts go up right away.
If someone wants to be heard on here, all they need to do is sign up for an account.
I don't think I've seen Adam claim he does not approve anon posts simply because he "doesn't like" what they say.
Don't forget Murphy. Nothing
By Yikes
Sat, 06/24/2023 - 11:14am
Don't forget Murphy. Nothing like marching in a Pride parade and then the next week being suckered in by obvious transphobia.
Curious
By Kaz
Thu, 06/22/2023 - 11:06pm
That's super different than what the firefighters claimed... supposedly.
Right?
By anon
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 4:56am
Not what I was told by someone who was there. It’s obvious Wu, developers and realtors got to the liberal media.
I suspect ...
By adamg
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 8:25am
This is the first time the Boston Police Department has ever been accused of being "liberal media "
That's... an entirely different picture.
By Tim Mc.
Thu, 06/22/2023 - 11:28pm
The first one sounded vaguely like "drug and child trafficking/molestation party". This one sounds more like "someone died at a kid's birthday party".
It's pretty concerning that we're getting such *different* stories...
Yeah, the first version was
By WEHarry
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 12:20am
Yeah, the first version was much more salacious.
Sure was
By tachometer
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 11:23am
Now I'm just standing here with the anti-woke mob holding our torches and pitchforks but we're not sure where to go next.
Third Rail Comes To The PJ's
By John Costello
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 7:24am
The BPD press release sounds like it was run through a score of lawyers.
Kudos to Adam (and the Herald and that other Adam) for having the story earlier in the week. It seems like the "paper of record" in this town decided to sit on this as long as they could and put a small story up yesterday afternoon.
The Globe's story reads like it was written by someone who was covering a football game for the first time "Today 22 people moved a ball around a rectangular grass field with white stripes and numbers on it....."
Bad journalism
By Bostoneer
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 8:21am
This is before a trial everything actually should be presented that way. Repeating police claims as fact when they are in fact legally just allegations is bad journalism. There is a very long history of the things police claim in the immediate aftermath of something being proven to be lies.
Also on a very basic having a story first but wrong is bad journalism waiting until you actually have the basic facts to publish should be the universal standard but it sadly isn’t. You cheering on those who act as stenographers for police officers without substantiating anything is just shameful and sad. What a low standard people set.
Doesn't this show the exact opposite of what you're claiming?
By fungwah
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 10:43am
The Herald wrote up an article with what they were told and may have got the facts wrong, whereas the Globe was careful to only print what they could actually verify. Seems like a win for responsible journalism.
Yikes
By Amy
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 8:20am
So true! It’s also really gross how many people desperately wanted to turn this into a shocking headline about trans people or drag queens as depraved child abusers without any clear facts or story. Suddenly they’re SO concerned about making public housing safe too… as long as it fits an agenda.
A Fells Acres Reboot no less
By Friartuck
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 4:29pm
As if Gerald Amirault was living in Southie doing drag
"Ladies and gentlemen, The Boston Herald!"
By MC Slim JB
Thu, 06/22/2023 - 11:36pm
[Awkward silence.] "That's the joke."
Police
By Bugs Bunny
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 12:12am
The same police force that tried to bury Wu’s accident. I can see Wu telling them to alter this police report too.
How was it covered up? She
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 10:39am
How was it covered up? She acknowledged the crash and answered questions.
The Operator Of the Other Car....
By John Costello
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 12:50pm
Went to file a police report last week (Per WBZ) and was told "it was already filed and the case closed".
Appears a tad unusual to me.
You're a tad unusual to me
By Kaz
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 1:30pm
Link to that quote or piss off. As of 3 days ago, you surely read in the Herald about how it's still under investigation according to police officials...so it's not "case closed". I can find no quotes in any media from Ms. Pena about attempting to file a report and being denied.
from the globe
By bostnkid
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 3:23pm
She can request a copy
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 5:13pm
She has not seen the report. I can understand why she would be anxious but there is no indication that she was found at fault. The mayor was honest about the fact that there was no emergency. The mayor's car can still be found at fault. If the report finds her at fault, she can appeal. She can file her report with the insurance company.
That’s screwed up. The law
By anon
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 10:54pm
That’s screwed up. The law says you have to file an accident report with the local police, the RMV, and your insurance company if there was more than $1000 in property damage, an injury, or a death. And the RMV can suspend your license if you don’t. It doesn’t say anything about not being able to file if the other driver or the police did it first.
Not seeing anything there
By fungwah
Sat, 06/24/2023 - 7:23am
about the case being closed, which seems like a pretty important detail in John's claim?
It's okay. Death still sells
By Maxi
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 6:35am
It's okay. Death still sells, and now they've added content to eek more stories out of it.
That's...
By lbb
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 9:12am
That's "eke".
I hope.
This press release doesn't
By Rwgfy
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 1:38am
This press release doesn't say there were no drugs in the apartment only that they were not strewn around. And it doesn't say there were no sex toys only that they don't concern the press-release writer or their bosses.
you're DESPERATE to be
By anon
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 5:17am
you're DESPERATE to be transphobic, we get it.
so you’re holding out hope, then?
By berkleealum
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 6:53am
let’s all pray some children were actually abused
/s
Well by that standard
By AP
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 10:37am
anyone who has sex toys in their home cannot host playdates?
Because I would bet the majority of parents have sex stuff somewhere in their bedroom.
Pretty much every CVS/Walgreens/etc
By fungwah
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 11:48am
stocks both drugs and sex toys, so I expect those to be declared off-limits to everyone under 18 any day now.
Sharper Image was sex toy
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 11:59am
Sharper Image was sex toy store.
That seems like a pretty big difference to me
By fungwah
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 10:46am
I'd argue there's a big difference in the situation between "sex toys in a bedroom drawer" or even "drugs kept locked away up high and out of sight of children" vs "strewn all around the apartment".
Aaaah...
By lbb
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 3:00pm
We got a sheet-sniffer here!
Someone is lying
By anon
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 6:10am
The question is why?
Not buying it
By Anon
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 6:19am
First responders go into all types of living conditions and usually do their job and leave. They have seen more unusual or suboptimal spaces for children than you can imagine and they hardly ever use the 51A**. For that captain to take the time out of his day to preform that task and for some of those responders to go out of their way to inform others in the community of what they saw- it was bad. So perhaps in the days post incident the adults present just got their stories straight. But hey, a bunch of men in wigs, with drugs, and sex toys, and a dead body, and a handful of children hiding in a back room is now normal. Nothing to see here. A lot of specific information for something that didn’t happen.
** per the firefighters I discussed this with
There is history here
By Bostoneer
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 8:34am
There is a long history of police officers exaggerating and outright lying about public housing residents to justify their brutal treatment of them and to justify expanding their budgets to do more of it.
There is also a long history of reactionaries manufacturing queer boogie men based on flimsy pretenses that don’t stand up to any scrutiny and relying on basic prejudice to be enforced and believed.
Both of those are clearly at play here given the way people have jumped through incredible hoops to paint it the way you did. If first responders really believed that shit they would be charging them for whatever cross dressing sacrifice ritual you seem to be implying not telling random people who post those stories anonymously online.
You are a terrible person basically doing modern blood libel.
I think you've got things switched around
By Tim Mc.
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 7:22pm
Anon is claiming that their *firefighter* friends don't lie, not that police officers don't lie.
And, in fact, firefighters are generally a lot better behaved than cops. I think that's a pretty uncontroversial statement to make. (Though there are obviously firefighters who are fuckups as well.)
or maybe
By anon
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 8:36am
only a tiny portion of it was in some way true, and some homophobic/transphobic firefighters (there are plenty!) decided to exaggerate, and the Herald was only too happy to do the rest of the work for them.
Firefighters are not known
By Dos Santos
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 9:03am
Firefighters are not known for lying about calls.
The firefighters did not
By cinnamngrl
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 9:11am
The firefighters did not investigate this incident. All of the firefighters that responded did not enter the building. Less of them entered the apartment. The fire department paramedics that were present did not move or transport the body.
Are you saying that villainizing trans people is unusual? That would be dishonest. I am sure that your firefighter friends enjoy telling you important secrets about Boston, and you are very naive.
FWIW
By BostonDog
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 10:13am
A few years ago I was in a facility where a small fire occurred. The BFD captain blamed it on smoking as he noticed coffee cups he said were being used as ash trays.
The insurance hired investigator spent days studying the site found there was no smoking and the cause was likely equipment failure.
BFD is good at a lot of things but I don't put faith in their analysis of things which aren't on fire.
Then the firefighters are shirking thier duties
By tachometer
Fri, 06/23/2023 - 11:33am
Emergency responders are mandatory reporters and by law must report to DCF and file a 51A when they suspect child abuse or neglect.
It isn't something that they have to do only if they personally find things sufficiently horrifying to decide that it's worth the extreme effort above and beyond the call of their normal life-risking job to make a phone call and fill out a simple form.
https://www.mass.gov/how-to/report-child-abuse-or-...
(The linked mandated reporter guide on the page specifically lists firefighters and police as mandatory reporters)
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