The gun and its bullets.
Boston Police report arresting a 14-year-old they say was packing a gun loaded with 12 bullets early this morning on Zeigler Street in Dudley Square - only a couple blocks from where they arrested another 14-year-old on similar charges less than two weeks ago.
Police say officers on patrol in the area around 1:10 a.m. saw a group of guys in a park and went up to speak to them:
Upon seeing the officers, several of those gathered began to walk away, including a subject who was observed walking in a manner which led the officers to believe he may be armed. Additional officers located and stopped the individual, who was later identified as a 14-year-old male from Roxbury, and began to speak with him. Officers observed that the suspect was standing in a bladed stance, with the right side of his body turned away from them while keeping his elbow tight on his side. The officers then performed a pat frisk which immediately led to the recovery of a loaded 9mm Smith & Wesson M&P handgun at which time the suspect was placed in custody without incident.
Police say the teen will be arraigned as delinquent for unlawful possession of a loaded firearm, unlawful possession of a large-capacity feeding device, unlawful possession of ammunition and receiving stolen property. Police say the gun had been stolen in Akron, OH.
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Comments
Maybe it's an optical
By Tollhouse
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 1:41pm
Maybe it's an optical illusion, but some of those bullets look to be a different caliber than the others.
Those all look like 9mm
By anon
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 7:59pm
Those all look like 9mm rounds to me. There are definitely different brands/quality in the mix. I notice that a lot in the police photos, everyone seems to have a mixture of whatever they could get their hands on.
Agreed. I thought the one on
By anon
Wed, 08/02/2017 - 10:03am
Agreed. I thought the one on the far right might be a Makarov cartridge at first but it probably is just because of forced perspective. I sometimes wonder if it is official police policy to only ever provide crummy lo-res images and videos ? I was looking through an archive of mug shots from the 1800s and many of them are much sharper (and arguably have a better creative aesthetic) than what I see lately.
The Quinn Bill must require the cops to take creative writing
By anon
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 2:47pm
Based on that justification they likely perform these illegal stop-and-frisks a couple of hundred times per day but we just don't hear about it.
But aren't we supposed to believe Mayor Mahty, Commish Evans, and their PR consultants when they tell us how the BPD is unlike any other urban department and has the complete trust of the minority community?
Congratulations on your big catch, fellas - this plays right into the frustrated-white-male narrative that these kids are out of control and how we should blame the missing fathers, etc. instead of the massive disinvestment in social programs and community development that we've seen under the Baker administration. Oh and it makes fantastic clickbait for media outlets like this.
Clickbait
By Will LaTulippe
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 3:17pm
Yep, Gaffin and Buzzfeed. Peas in a pod.
Is my secret out?
By adamg
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 11:54pm
Shh, don't tell anybody! I want to be Buzzfeed when I grow up.
Riiiight...
By ScottR
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 3:32pm
It's actually fairly easy to spot *anyone* carrying concealed if you know what you are looking for, and it's even easier to spot someone carrying a firearm in their waistband while trying to look like they are not.
Thanks, Jason Bourne
By anon
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 3:41pm
With your amazing crime-fighting powers of detection, you should be out saving the world, not stuck behind a keyboard.
Try this
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 6:27pm
Stick a brick in your waistband.
Try to walk without dropping it.
Now, repeat this with the coordination level of a young adolescent - one who is a bit nervous because there's a cop nearby.
It ain't superpower or rocket science - just training.
Look into it.
By cinnamngrl
Tue, 08/01/2017 - 10:33pm
It was actually pretty logical. if you want to gun at a gun store you would never walk out of there without a holster and case and A trigger lock and a gun safe. This Arrest is pretty consistent with children carrying guns including the mix and match ammunition.
If any of them realize that you can buy a holster on Etsy we are in big trouble
A quality holster eliminates
By DPM
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 4:19pm
A quality holster eliminates that. A handgun in your waistband without a holster? Good luck hanging on to it, indeed very obvious.
Safer Too
By Aeroguy
Tue, 08/01/2017 - 10:01am
The 'Plaxico Burress' self-shooting is an example of the value of a holster. Burress, a notable pro football player, did 20 months in prison for his offenses.
So your mad the cops got a
By anon
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 3:40pm
So your mad the cops got a gun off the streets? Lol ok
Huh?
By FootPad
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 4:09pm
What's an example of such disinvestment? and, what's an empirical example of the benefit such social program was providing? In contrast, I was listening to this Freakonomics radio program yesterday and their empirical findings seem to jive with observations... i.e. attempting to do good via well-intentioned social programs doesn't necessarily result in good outcomes.
The real question to me is 'how do we find and get rid of those who are supplying 14 year-olds with guns to perform their dirty work?
Try informing yourself
By anon
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 4:20pm
Since you evidently don't read any newspapers, try Googling "Baker" and "budget cuts."
It must be thrilling to find a podcast that's told you what you've been wanting to hear.
What programs in Boston
By Lmo
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 6:14pm
What programs in Boston specifically were cut?
A) A 14 year old carrying a
By DPM
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 4:20pm
A) A 14 year old carrying a handgun is indeed out of control.
B) Carrying an unholstered firearm inside your waistband is a good way to look like you are carrying a gun.
Nope
By bosguy22
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 4:43pm
It's racist cops "stopping and frisking" without cause.
They did have a cause
By BostonDog
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 10:48pm
He appeared to have a weapon as is well documented in their report. It wasn't a random search.
It would be without cause if they stopped and frisked all members of a group who were doing nothing suspicious.
guess bosguy22's /s too subtle for the room
By Jeff F
Tue, 08/01/2017 - 11:38am
Whodathunkit?
Congrat "anon"....
By Roztonian
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 6:26pm
You have officially posted the most moronic comment of the year. As a Bostonian, the only response that came to mind after reading this was - great job BPD. If anyone is forwarding a narrative, it's you insinuating that all "white males" are fearful racists. The reality is that there are illegal firearms on our streets, and someone needs to remove them - along with the criminals carrying them. It's NOT a narrative. It's a reality. Save your trolling SJW posts for another time, this was a win all around..
There's more to it than that
By adamg
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 11:53pm
I keep writing about these court decisions and you must've missed all those stories, because you'd realize that cops can't stop somebody just because they're in the wrong neighborhood or even running away from a cop. In other words, no, stop and frisk is not legal in Boston - or the rest of the state.
Let me know if you'd like links to some of those stories. It's late and I don't feel like going to the bother for somebody who doesn't really care.
We are only hearing about Dot
By Metoo
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 3:00pm
We are only hearing about Dot and Roxbury gun arrests and shootings. Nothing about South Boston.
Yes, it's all part of the conspiracy
By adamg
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 5:17pm
I never report about crime in South Boston. No, not ever.
Anon is the only person...
By Roztonian
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 6:30pm
Anon is the only person I have ever seen who attempted to spin a "one less gun" story into bad news. Fail.
Calm down killer. I didn't
By Metoo
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 7:41pm
Calm down killer. I didn't mean you.
Then why did you complain *here*?
By Jeff F
Tue, 08/01/2017 - 11:44am
If you're going to throw out a vague, blanket complaint about local media coverage, it's really not unreasonable for the guy running the local media site you're actually at, to point out that you're full of it.
kthnxbai
Ummm no I'm not. The month
By Metoo
Tue, 08/01/2017 - 12:28pm
Ummm no I'm not. The month of July was full of gun arrests and shootings that we are not hearing about in the news. Ask around South Boston. My point was Adam would post the info if he had it so it was nothing against him. Ok Jeff? Did I break any rules this time Boss?
Do you see the ridiculous
By anon
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 8:02pm
Do you see the ridiculous level of trolling you're getting on this post Adam?
This is what cops have to deal with, face to face, every single day. I know because I am one.
Seriously.. why are these people legitimately upset at the BPD for taking an illegal firearm from A FOURTEEN YEAR OLD KID?!? WHAT THE HELL PLANET ARE YOU PEOPLE ON?!?
How do you cope?
By anon
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 8:46pm
You have to deal with people legitimately questioning the BPD's treatment of the minority community, given the department's stellar record (Willie Bennett, Michael Cox, and dozens more)?
That must be really hard on you, when you tally up your earnings every April and find that we've compensated you to the tune of $250k plus benefits, at the great expense of our schools and other municipal institutions.
Looking forward to more feedback from this forum's resident geniuses on what it's like to be a white guy in Boston...
Can you come up with more recent examples?
By adamg
Tue, 08/01/2017 - 12:05am
Not to excuse the Bennett or Cox cases (or others you could mention), but at some point, you have to ask if that's still going on in Boston. They're hardly recent cases and it's kind of stupid to blame cops who might not have even been born when they happened (the Stuart case was in 1990).
Not all that overtime is coming at the expense of other programs - a lot of it is detail work which doesn't come out of taxes - it's billed to the companies that hire detail officers (and some is due to the department ordering officers to work overtime, rather than hiring additional officers). In any case, in a city hauling in as much in new tax revenue as Boston is right now (let's not jinx it and say we're in a real-estate bubble, mkay?), there's plenty to go around - don't blame whatever problems BPS has on BPD.
It's still our money either way
By Bob Leponge
Tue, 08/01/2017 - 7:21am
This line of argument always bothers me. While it's narrowly, technically true that detail work isn't paid by my taxes, the fact is, it's often paid by Verizon, Keyspan, National Grid, or BWSC, all of whom have tarriffed rates that pass the costs along to the ratepayers, or by road construction companies, whose bills are ultimately paid by the taxpayer.
[Edit: I understand this is not directly relevant to your point, which was about budgetary priorities]
Don't forget
By ElizaLeila
Tue, 08/01/2017 - 8:09am
(also derailing, I apologize Adam)
Don't forget all of the construction work that causes traffic impediments requires paid detail.
This honestly made me laugh.
By anon
Tue, 08/01/2017 - 6:03am
This honestly made me laugh.
I'm a minority cop. I'm the furthest thing from a white guy that you can imagine.
You're making a complete fool of yourself.
What have you done to better this city? Donate to any of these schools us cops are stealing from? Volunteer with any of the inner city kids? Cause I have!
Great expense to our schools?
By bosguy22
Tue, 08/01/2017 - 9:54am
Boston has one the highest per student spending numbers in the state....how is having a well compensated police force hurting schools?
Doesn't appear to be "you people"
By SwirlyGrrl
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 9:16pm
Looks like we have an anontroll infestation - singular. Some of the regulars are getting sarcastic about it, but they appear to be on your side. Stick around and you'll know to expect that.
Thank you, BPD.
By Anony- Mouse
Mon, 07/31/2017 - 9:06pm
Much appreciated.
Lower Roxbury ? On the map ..
By anon
Tue, 08/01/2017 - 12:48am
Is that " code " like South Dorchester?
No
By adamg
Tue, 08/01/2017 - 7:21am
The only question is whether its border is Melnea Cass or Mass. Ave.
Great job BPD! Thanks for
By anon
Tue, 08/01/2017 - 2:28pm
Great job BPD! Thanks for making our streets safer